Re: Sinclair crests

[Niven Sinclair <niven@niven.co.uk>]

At 11:40 09/05/01 +0400, you wrote:
> Hi there:  Is there a crest with a bird
> in the center of the badge surrounded
> by three roses?  Thanks, Gail
>
> Janet Thomas wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've been rereading Katherine Kurtz's first Adapt book
> > and have come across descriptions of Sinclair crests
> > that I'm not familiar with.  One has a phoenix and the
> > other a maltese cross with stars.  Does anyone know
> > about these crests?  Katherine, do you have pictures
> > of them you could share?
> >
> > Thanks for any info
> > Janet
> > Yes the branch of the Sinclairs with the Crest of a Phoenix in
> flames
      is from Gloucestershire
in England.  Above the crest the words:
      renasce piu gloriosa+ appear. 
Motto: Fight (which is the same as
      that of other branches of the
Sinclair family, notably Hermanston
      and Ravenscraig).  The Lords
Sinclair also have a phoenix in flames
      as their crest or, sometimes, a
swan with wings outstretched.

+   'arise in glory' is as close as I can get.

The branch with the Maltese Cross (actually the croix pattee) with
stars
is the Sinclairs of Freswick*.  The motto  via crucis via
lucis - the way
of the cross is the way of the light.
 
* at present represented by Major General David Boyd Alexander
Sinclair,
   the grandson of Admiral Edwyn Alexander Sinclair

Practically every branch of the family has a different crest, a
different
coat-of-arms and a different motto.  "Commit yi vark to
God" is the motto
of the Earls of Caithness and  not that of any branch
(as far as I am aware)
although it now seems to have been universally (if incorrectly)
adopted.

Niven Sinclair
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