Re: Papl Mandate 1329

["John S. Quarterman" <jsq@mids.org>]

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>The moors more properly the Moors refer to Muslims from North Africa Othello
>and Ben Yusiff are two Moorish names. Gibraltar was named after a Moor "Gib
>the Tar"

Actually, Gibraltar is short for Gebel Tarik, Mountain of Tarik.

The fight in which our ancestor Sir William was killed took place
in Spain.  They were on their way to the Holy Land to bury Bruce's
heart, as he had requested.  They couldn't refuse a request by a
Christian Spanish ruler to fight the Moors.  The Moors thought
them so chivalrous that the Moors returned the heart and the bodies,
or at least that's what one version says.

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jean Haddow <jean@hadpad.demon.co.uk>
>To: sinclair@zilker.net <sinclair@zilker.net>
>Date: 28 October 1998 01:27
>Subject: Re: Papl Mandate 1329
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>>In message <11194778198970@domain1.bigpond.com>, Mark Bradshaw
>><M.J.B@bigpond.com> writes
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>>>Hi Laurel
>>>Here is some more info for you cannot remember what I have already sent.
>>>The moors
>>
>>I don't understand the reference to "the moors".  As a Scot, living in
>>Scotland, and a Caithness Sinclair,  and peripheral to the debate, I'd
>>be glad of a more precise definition.
>>> when they saw the Scots scattered from each other in the chase,
>>>suddenly turned back and surrounded Sir William St.Clair. Douglas with Sir
>>>Robert Logan and Sir Walter logan galloped to the rescue, but finding the
>>>enemy pressing round in increasing numbers and with no chance of escape,
>>>Douglas took Bruces heart from his neck, round which encased in a silver
>>>casket and chain which he wore he threw it toward the enemy saying " pass
>>>first in fight as thou won't, Douglas will follow thee or die " He then
>>>dashed forward cutting his way through the enemy, but the odds were to
>>>great and he and two Logan Knights, Sir William St.Clair and his brother
>>>John were slain. Douglas body was found lying over Bruces heart. His
>>>followers brought it back to Scotland to which they sorrowfully returned.
>>>The King's heart was buried in Melrose Abbey.
>>>Now in 1996 a silver casket was found during excavation in Melrose Abbey
>>>believed to contain Bruces heart. I see you found the same story,
>>>interesting stuff if you ask me.
>>>Mark :-)
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>>Jean Haddow
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