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John Sinclair Q

Thank you for the correction I do appreciate it.  Tarik is a very Arabic
name it amuses me that Tarik Assize deputy PM of Iraq is in fact Christian.

Sinclair
-----Original Message-----
From: John S. Quarterman <jsq@mids.org>
To: sinclair@zilker.net <sinclair@zilker.net>
Date: 29 October 1998 17:11
Subject: Re: Papl Mandate 1329


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>>The moors more properly the Moors refer to Muslims from North Africa
Othello
>>and Ben Yusiff are two Moorish names. Gibraltar was named after a Moor
"Gib
>>the Tar"
>
>Actually, Gibraltar is short for Gebel Tarik, Mountain of Tarik.
>
>The fight in which our ancestor Sir William was killed took place
>in Spain.  They were on their way to the Holy Land to bury Bruce's
>heart, as he had requested.  They couldn't refuse a request by a
>Christian Spanish ruler to fight the Moors.  The Moors thought
>them so chivalrous that the Moors returned the heart and the bodies,
>or at least that's what one version says.
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Jean Haddow <jean@hadpad.demon.co.uk>
>>To: sinclair@zilker.net <sinclair@zilker.net>
>>Date: 28 October 1998 01:27
>>Subject: Re: Papl Mandate 1329
>>
>>
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>>>In message <11194778198970@domain1.bigpond.com>, Mark Bradshaw
>>><M.J.B@bigpond.com> writes
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>>>>Hi Laurel
>>>>Here is some more info for you cannot remember what I have already sent.
>>>>The moors
>>>
>>>I don't understand the reference to "the moors".  As a Scot, living in
>>>Scotland, and a Caithness Sinclair,  and peripheral to the debate, I'd
>>>be glad of a more precise definition.
>>>> when they saw the Scots scattered from each other in the chase,
>>>>suddenly turned back and surrounded Sir William St.Clair. Douglas with
Sir
>>>>Robert Logan and Sir Walter logan galloped to the rescue, but finding
the
>>>>enemy pressing round in increasing numbers and with no chance of escape,
>>>>Douglas took Bruces heart from his neck, round which encased in a silver
>>>>casket and chain which he wore he threw it toward the enemy saying "
pass
>>>>first in fight as thou won't, Douglas will follow thee or die " He then
>>>>dashed forward cutting his way through the enemy, but the odds were to
>>>>great and he and two Logan Knights, Sir William St.Clair and his brother
>>>>John were slain. Douglas body was found lying over Bruces heart. His
>>>>followers brought it back to Scotland to which they sorrowfully
returned.
>>>>The King's heart was buried in Melrose Abbey.
>>>>Now in 1996 a silver casket was found during excavation in Melrose Abbey
>>>>believed to contain Bruces heart. I see you found the same story,
>>>>interesting stuff if you ask me.
>>>>Mark :-)
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>>>--
>>>Jean Haddow
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