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Re: Patrick Sinclair of Fort Michillimackinac
At 18:38 29/02/00 -0800, you wrote:
>Thanks Margaret,
>
>I would be very interested but please don't go to too much trouble.
>Actually I believe John like William also came to New Zealand.
>Is Latheron far from Wick?
>Do you know anything much about the Lyall sept, ie how it came about?
>Was there much happening around wick in the 1840's ish that would have
>made the likes of William and John leave Scotland to come to Australia and
>New Zealand?
>Thanks Heaps,
>Jenny
>
>Jenny,
I am amazed that you, a New Zealander, should know so little about the part
the Sinclairs played
and still play in the affairs of your country:
The Hon. Andrew Sinclair was Colonial Secretary for New Zealand
from 1844 to 1861
James Sinclair from Nybster, nr Wick and his wife Christina
Sutherland were the founders of Blenheim
John Sinclair who was born at Latheron in Caithness (where my own
family and that of Margaret comes
from) was Mayor of Invercargill. His parents emigrated to
New Zealand in 1859 and took up
land at Taeri which is about 28 miles from Dunedin.
This John Sinclair married a Jessie McIntyre who was born
in Argyll in Scotland.
Roland St Clair who wrote "The St Clairs of the Isles", which is
considered to be the definitive work on
the St Clair/Sinclair family, emigrated to New Zealand
with his parents in 1865. At the age
of six he was highest in his class at Newton Academy which
was an Auckland Primary School
and at the age of 12 he was the highest of all pupils in
the State schols of Wellington.
He was a keen swimmer and rower and founded the NZ Amateur
Swimming Association in
1890. He set up swimming centres throughout the whole of
Australasia. In compliment to
him the St Clair Cross was introduced to honour those who
were responsible in saving lives.
in 1892, he met with an accident which compelled him to
use crutches for 9 months during
which time he wrote "The St Clairs of the Isles". The NZ
Government ordered up 500 copies
of this book so you are bond to find it in various
libraries. The book was published in Auckland
by H. Brett, General Printers and Publishers, Auckland 1898.
Roland's family came from Orkney
James Leask Sinclair and his, wife, Mary Mowatt travelled to NZ in the ship
"King of Italy" in 1865. He was
given a crown grant of 180 acres of land at Hokianga. He
held various posts in the Educational
Department but eventually settled at Otahuhu where he
died. He was a great writer with a
vast library of 3,000 books which he left to Auckland
University College. They had 12 children
all of whom (apart from William who had died on the "King
of Italy" on his way to NZ) settled
in NZ
>By the end of the 19th Century, there were over 1,000 Sinclairs in New
>Zealand. Today, there may be 20
times that number which should allow you to form a Clan Sinclair Society.
A quick look at the Auckland
Telephone Directory of 1995 shows numerous Sinclairs as does that of
Warkworth-Wellsford, Northland,
Bay of Plenty, Waikato, King Country, Thames Valley, Wairarapa, Manawatu,
Wanganu, Gisborne,
Hawkes Bay, Taranaki, Wellington, Nelson and Bays, Christchurch, Timaru and
Oamaru, Marlborough,
West Coast and Buller, Dunedin, Southland, Otago, Invercargill, etc.
Today:
Susan Sinclair is the present Member of Parliament for Titirangi
Constituency and can be contacted on
Tel: (09) 818 1115
Camilla, the daughter of the late Robin Sinclair, the 2nd Viscount Thurso
of Ulbster, is also a resident of NZ
and would be an excellent person to help in establishing a Clan Sinclair
Society. If this interests you, her
name and address can be supplied to you directly by our Chief, Malcolm
Sinclair, Earl of Caithness.
Incidentally, she is of the same family as Major General Patrick Sinclair
of Fort Michillimacinac fame which
brings us back to the reason for your contribution to the Sinclair
Discussion list in the first place. The wheel
has gone full circle.
Hope this will give you some encouragement and realise that you are not the
only Sinclair voice in NZ - a
country which has been seen as another Scotland in the Southern Hemisphere.
Niven Sinclair (who is directly related to numerous Sinclairs in Canada,
U.S.A., Australia and New Zealand
and who has a house in Latheron, Caithness from where they
all originated).
>>From: milamba <milamba@milamba.com>
>>Reply-To: sinclair@mids.org
>>To: sinclair@mids.org
>>Subject: Re: Patrick Sinclair of Fort Michillimackinac
>>Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 07:24:07 +1100
>>
>>Hi Jenny,
>>
>>The William I was looking at had a brother John born in 1825, but in
>>Latheron. No mother is mentioned. I'll hunt a little further for you if
>>you'd like.
>>
>>And yes, Lyall is a Sept of Clan Sinclair.
>>
>>Regards
>>Margaret
>>
>>
>>At 06:49 AM 01/03/2000 , you wrote:
>>>Dear Margaret,
>>>
>>>Do you know any more about the people you mentioned. I think William may
>>>have had a brother John. On William's death certificate it says that JAmes
>>>would have been a farmer. William was either born in 1822 or 1823 in Wick.
>>>
>>>William married in wick, in 1850 to Barbara Lyall - that is a sept of
>>>Sinclair is it not?
>>>Her parents were Henry Lyall and Janet Sinclair.
>>>
>>>Jenny
>>>
>>>
>>>>From: Margaret Stokes <milamba@labyrinth.net.au>
>>>>Reply-To: sinclair@mids.org
>>>>To: sinclair@mids.org
>>>>Subject: Re: Patrick Sinclair of Fort Michillimackinac
>>>>Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 17:14:39 +1100
>>>>
>>>>Hi Jenny,
>>>>
>>>>There was a James Sinclair that married Margaret McKay on 14 March 1822 at
>>>>Latheron
>>>>and a William Sinclair christened Feb 1823 to a James Sinclair of that
>>>>area... Could that be them?
>>>>
>>>>Margaret
>
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